Keep pushing this!

These tools have to stoop to such nonsense.

As Glenn Greenwald documented today, it's because they were shocked by a dose of reality today, when KSM confessed to trying to kill Presidents Carter and Clinton.

As Greenwald shows in quotes from Malkin and LGF:  Right wingers actually believe we support terrorists and they us.  These people are so through the looking glass this is their reality.

So I'm not shocked they're going around posting disingenuous diaries trying to prop up that belief again, hoping we'll all chime in with how much we love Ahmedinejad or Osama.

Iran, India, Russia, and China are by no means Utopian. But the reality is, their leaders are not buying up land in Paraguay. They may not be up to our standards, but nor are we, in these dark days. Al Qaeda is an amorphous Sunni semi-coalition, which is just one player in a vast, bloody game.

The 'Little Green Footballs' operatives are part of a well-funded, totally fake, Viagra infested, Rush Limbaughian, neocon propaganda operation designed to fool people who view politics as entertainment rather than business. They make everything so simple and entertaining for their American victims. They will dance on the graves of their sadly mislead troops.

One thing I've been shocked to learn over the last year or so: right wingers actually believe the sh*t they peddle. It's amazing. I always assumed that what they said was just rhetorical bluster, but they really have no idea where their talking points stop and reality begins.

I was talking to an old friend who's now a senior staffer for a prominent GOP Senator; this guy is not a foot-soldier, but a insider political hack. And he simply assumed that Obama had the "netroots" wrapped up because George Soros indicated support for him. And, since Soros runs MoveOn ... Obama had "the online crowd" wrapped up. I told him, "man, you guys actually believe that crap?" Then I explained distributed networking, bottom-up organizing, etc, etc ... and how George Soros was pretty far down the list of influentials when it came to online politics, below a bunch of people he's never heard of.

But the propaganda about big, bad Soros and his online horde ... they actually believe that.

Doesn't surprise me that the LGF crowd actually believes a diary praising Khalid Sheik Muhammed would get a positive response. They probably believe it's just some trick that it didn't.

The problem is that it is just assumed to be a false flag (and a misuse of that term anyway).

Without anything more, Kestrel9000's post makes dKos look stupid.  (Maybe that was also a false flag post?)

The right reaction is to ban the user, and explain clearly the correct raction to nonsense like that.  Not to try and blame (possibly innocent) others.

Now this is my first post on MyDD, and that makes me a troll, not a false flag.

IMO, without any proof that Charles, or anyone at LGF did anything, accusing them makes the post just looks paranoid.

I am not a Republican, and posted only to try and inject some reality.

Accusing people without any evidence at all, needs to be fact checked.  Why not accuse Karl Rove?  Or GWB himself?  

Fact is the open diary system invites the possibility that someone will post an entry that everyone might disagree with.

Just to be clear, I am not a Democrat either.  I am a Canadian.  I have a blog, just add .com to my screen name if you are curious.

Interesting that dKos member AWhitneyBrown basically agrees with The Eloquence of an Enemy Combatant.  Is he also a false flag?

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2007/3/ 15/154746/375/475#c475

His [KSM] policy is to kill civilians. Our [USA] policy is also to kill civilians but to do it accidentally and say we didn't mean to do it.

there are points of agreement I have with him [KSM] on the geopolitics of it

of course he doesn't aggree with KSM or support him, he just can't see a difference between him and the USA.

Regarding the "lack of proof" that this was a set up job by LGF people, it is NOT true that there is none.  The fact that someone on LGF noticed this and commented on it as showing where DailyKos is coming from is rather strong proof that this was a setup -- a false flag posting designed to enable a LGF smear.  Are we really to believe that people at LGF spend their time looking at fast moving diaries on DailyKos and so of course noticed this particular one?

Of course not.  The comment on LGF together with the lack of history of "cobra" on Kos seems to me strong proof that this was a false flag posting.

A few months before the Iraq Occupation, I had the opportunity to have a very interesting conversation with a conservative Republican in a UCS church, among a group of the Permanent Peace Movement (which I am on the very fringes of). He is a former US Marine Corps intelligence officer (I had read that there only existed about 100 of these officers). He had also worked as a United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq, driving around Iraq with a tiny band of UN brothers, busting into Saddam's various institutions. He said that the Bush administration was dead set on invading Iraq, that it would be absolutely illegal, no WMDs would be found, and that it would be the biggest military mistake we had ever made (short of Vietnam).

He also had things to say about terrorism. He said that if terrorists make you change your way of life, then they have won.

Think about that.

If false flag operations, or stealth trolls (as I call them) force us to become paranoid and trigger-happy, thus spiritless and fearful of controversy, then they have won.